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Some more updates and short status overview

Hanno Schlichting
Hi all.

Limi just fixed some long-outstanding inconsistencies in our wording
scheme. All references to members (except in the meaning of 'member of a
group') and portal have been extinguished and replaced by users and site
accordingly.

I have rebuilt the pot file and synced these changes to the po files but
havn't set any messages to fuzzy as part of this change, as I didn't
want to invalidate so many messages just so short before a release and I
know of some translations who already used a consistent wording scheme.

So if you have the time, please search your translation for occurrences
of translations of the words member and portal and correct these.

Additionally here are some short facts about the current status of Plone:

- The next bug fix release 2.1.2 is scheduled for Dec 16th.

- The migration to a new plone.org server running Plone 2.1 has
successfully been managed.

- As part of this move we have finally gotten rid of the collector as
our bug tracker and use trac instead. You can find it here:
http://trac.plone.org/plone. Errors and features regarding i18n are
tracked under the Internationalisation component.

- The roadmap (http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap) for the next
Plone release is close to final now.

- We are trying to move to a time-based release schedule (meaning the
time is set and only features which are ready at that time will be
included).

- The next Plone version will be called Plone 2.5 followed by adding
+0.5 per release (2.5, 3.0, 3.5...).

There's probably more - just ask or look at the shiny new plone.org ;)

Best wishes,
Hanno



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Re: Some more updates and short status overview

Mohsen Moeeni
On 12/8/05, Hanno Schlichting <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> Limi just fixed some long-outstanding inconsistencies in our wording
> scheme. All references to members (except in the meaning of 'member of a
> group') and portal have been extinguished and replaced by users and site
> accordingly.
>

The changes do not apply to this entry? I have ``svn up``ed:

site_feedback_mailtemplate_body:
Default: "You are receiving this mail because ${fullname}
${from_address} is sending feedback about the plone portal
administrated by you at ${url}. The message sent was: ${message}"

Mohsen,


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Re: Some more updates and short status overview

Vlada Macek-2
[At 08.12.2005 16:43, Mohsen Moeeni kindly sent the following quotation.]

>On 12/8/05, Hanno Schlichting <[hidden email]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Limi just fixed some long-outstanding inconsistencies in our wording
>>scheme. All references to members (except in the meaning of 'member of a
>>group') and portal have been extinguished and replaced by users and site
>>accordingly.
>>    
>>
>
>The changes do not apply to this entry? I have ``svn up``ed:
>
>site_feedback_mailtemplate_body:
>Default: "You are receiving this mail because ${fullname}
>${from_address} is sending feedback about the plone portal
>administrated by you at ${url}. The message sent was: ${message}"
>  
>

I think it should not apply to this entry, since there is no "member"
term used.

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Re: Some more updates and short status overview

Mohsen Moeeni
On 12/8/05, Vlada Macek <[hidden email]> wrote:

> [At 08.12.2005 16:43, Mohsen Moeeni kindly sent the following quotation.]
>
> >The changes do not apply to this entry? I have ``svn up``ed:
> >
> >site_feedback_mailtemplate_body:
> >Default: "You are receiving this mail because ${fullname}
> >${from_address} is sending feedback about the plone portal
> >administrated by you at ${url}. The message sent was: ${message}"
> >
> >
>
> I think it should not apply to this entry, since there is no "member"
> term used.

Yep but I meant portal => site change.

There are also other terms which would be worth to
consider. Like ``(content, item, object)`` terms which
sounds to be the same things to me.

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Re: Some more updates and short status overview

Alexander Limi
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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:54:34 -0800, Mohsen Moeeni  
<[hidden email]> wrote:


> Yep but I meant portal => site change.

I think Hanno has fixed this.

> There are also other terms which would be worth to
> consider. Like ``(content, item, object)`` terms which
> sounds to be the same things to me.

Nowhere in the Plone UI should it say "object", the official word for this  
is "item" in UI-speak. As for "content", it's a bit more generic, and can  
mean many items at once, so there's no easy rule about this.

If you see object used in the UI anywhere, please fix it. It should most  
likely say "item" instead, or "content".

That being said, in Norwegian I have mapped "item" to the work for  
"content" because that's how our language works. Currently, I'm not sure  
if we can make this generalization (although it would be nice to do some  
research and straighten it out - the fewer conceptual words, the better).

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Re: Re: Some more updates and short status overview

Vlada Macek-2
[At 10.12.2005 02:52, Alexander Limi kindly sent the following quotation.]

> That being said, in Norwegian I have mapped "item" to the work for
> "content" because that's how our language works. Currently, I'm not
> sure  if we can make this generalization (although it would be nice to
> do some  research and straighten it out - the fewer conceptual words,
> the better).

The very same for Czech, I translate both "content" and "object" as
"item" to unify the UI.

"Content" is a bit etherial, as we almost always have to point to
something particular. "Content" stays where it _is_ particular anything
(there are few such cases). "Object" is a geeky word that can scare or
confuse users.

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Re: Re: Some more updates and short status overview

Jean Jordaan-3
> "Content" is a bit etherial, as we almost always have to point to
> something particular.

"Content" in English is "inhoud" in Afrikaans, but "This content
needs editing" sounds funny in Afrikaans. Much more common would
be "This document/item needs editing".

So far we've tried to keep "content/inhoud", to preserve the
generality of the text, but it comes at the cost of a bit of
obscurity.

Perhaps we can consider reducing the use of "inhoud" in the
Afrikaans translation.

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